वापरपी चर्चा:Dcljr cher vixoi

Hello Dcljr!

The Discoverer told me that you experience(d) some issues concerning links on Flow. Can you describe the problem?

Thanks!

I've already reported them elsewhere. Basically, I've been told that every problem I have with Flow is not actually a "Flow problem", but a problem with the visual editor or the wikitext parser, or whatever else. Nevermind that I only have to deal with these problems on Flow-enabled pages....

• I once tried to create a link in a comment using an "old" namespace prefix (that had recently been changed on the wiki) to illustrate a point, and both Flow editors (visual and wikitext) changed the link to use the new namespace prefix, thereby completely "missing the point" of my post. I believe the wikitext editor should accept what the user submits with no changes (especially on pages outside of the main namespace), even if they're submitting what might be considered "incorrect" wikitext, since users often have the need to discuss incorrect wikitext on talk pages.
• I like to check links I've included in my comments before saving them. This is trivial on normal (non-Flow) pages (preview and then Ctrl-click on all the links), but on a Flow page when "previewing" (visual editor), a Ctrl-click is interpreted as wanting to edit the link. If I accidentally (out of habit) hit Esc to say I don't want to edit the link, I get kicked out of the entire editing process, losing all my work. So…
  1. Ctrl-clicks should not be interpreted the same as regular clicks, when clicking on links in the visual editor; and
  2. Hitting Esc while editing a link should only stop editing the link, not stop the entire editing process.

Ah, yes, I remember the one concerning namespaces now. There is nothing new about that. You can try it on a sandbox while using VE, you will have the same issue.

About that ctrl+clic problem, I've submitted the idea. At the moment, both on Flow and VE, you have to click on the link to open the inspector, and then do a ctrl+clic. I've been confused by that when I've started to use VE too, but now I'm used to it.

I would like to add a little to what Dcljr has said above:

If I'm editing in Flow in wikitext mode and I try to preview by using the double square brackets button to switch to VE mode and then return to wikitext mode, I almost never have the same wikitext that I began with (this could be due to a wide variety of reasons).

Flow should have a method of previewing wikitext that at the bare minimum returns the same wikitext to the user, that the user input in the first place. Most of these VE problems don't look like they are going to be solved soon.

One solution could be to have a preview function for Flow in wikitext mode that doesn't depend on VE, for example in a pop-up box, or something like how previewing happens in Phabricator below the editing window, but it need not be real-time like Phabricator.