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ह्या फळ्या वीशीं

Ho zaun asa Wikipediacho Tinto! Hangasor akhea somudaien Wikipedia vixim bhasabhas korunk zata.

हो जावन आसा विकिपीडियाचो टींटो! हांगासर आख्या समुदायेन विकिपीडिया विशीं भासाभास करुंक जाता।

Previous discussion was archived at विकिपीडिया:Tinto/Archive 1 on 2016-03-18.

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04:42, 23 ऑक्टोबर 2018 (IST)

"Tech News: 2018-43" हाका जबाब दी
The Discoverer (चर्चायोगदान)

Hanv 'permanent' toren sysop vo admin pod magunk sodta. Hanv adim khup pavtti 'temporary' admin zala. Hea babtint tumcho sohokar vo adkhol soloil borounchem.

I would like to request for permanent adminship in order to do regular administrative and housekeeping jobs like deleting useless and empty pages, editing and updating protected templates and pages, interface administration, etc. I have been a temporary admin several times in the past. Please mention your support or objections in this regard at the bottom of this post.

Fredericknoronha (चर्चायोगदान)

STRONG SUPPORTː I have known the work of The Discoverer for some time now, but only got to know him (via chat, not personally) recently. He seems to be the kind of person whose knowledge would be most helpful and useful in promoting and building the Konkani Wikipedia. Hence I would strongly support this....

Isidore Dantas1 (चर्चायोगदान)
SerTanmay (चर्चायोगदान)

How do I vote? You have my support.

Fredericknoronha (चर्चायोगदान)

Just make your comments here. That is enough of a vote.

SerTanmay (चर्चायोगदान)


Fredericknoronha (चर्चायोगदान)
2401:4900:36C3:BCDC:1977:A0A4:F495:FEF3 (चर्चायोगदान)

I fully support The Discoverer for adminship

Rosario Fernandes (चर्चायोगदान)

From the incubation of gom.wiki till date, The Discoverer has done his best in keeping the konknni wiki upto its mark. It should be great to grant The Discoverer permanent adminiship. I highly recommend permanent adminship to THE DISCOVERER. I also take this opportunity to thank The Discoverer for all the services rendered.

The Discoverer (चर्चायोगदान)

Thanks to all of you for your support, I have been granted temporary adminship and temporary interface adminship for a year and a half.

Fredericknoronha (चर्चायोगदान)

Great going. Let's get more people on board, and also build things.

I really think translations hold the key.

So do working in teams...

Let's try!

Isidore Dantas1 is doing a lot of contribution by way of translations.

"Request for permanent adminship" हाका जबाब दी
Fredericknoronha (चर्चायोगदान)

The URLs (web address) for Konkani web pages often turn out very long. I would like to request Wikipedia to install the URL shortener for the GOM wikipedia

The Discoverer (चर्चायोगदान)

As I understand, you are referring to the encoded characters with % signs that appear instead of the devanagari characters. Could you confirm that?

Also, please could you provide some details of the URL shortening system you have in mind, so that we can have a look at how it would work? For example which sites have this implemented or the name of the Mediawiki extension?

The Discoverer (चर्चायोगदान)

In the meantime, I would like to suggest a workaround that I use: you can copy the Latin part of the URL from the browser's address bar, and the non Latin part from the bold page title. This way you can avoid the ugly % encoded links.

You can also use the English namespace names instead of Konkani (User, Category, Template, Talk, etc.) They work fine.

Fredericknoronha (चर्चायोगदान)

This is just a technical fix to take care of the long URLs generated (particularly for Devanagari pages). If not mistaken rhe Tamil wikipedia also uses this

If you agree, pls lend your support.

Fredericknoronha (चर्चायोगदान)
The Discoverer (चर्चायोगदान)

I support your proposal to enable a URL shortener for the Konkani WIkipedia.

I think that the extension is ShortURL

Fredericknoronha (चर्चायोगदान)

Dear Wikipedia, Would appreciate if you could install the ShortURL facility, in view of the above discussion. This is a simple change that would just make it easier for us all while sharing Konkani (specially Devanagari-script) URLs. I do not perceive that there are any contentious issues involve. Thank you!

The Discoverer (चर्चायोगदान)
The Discoverer (चर्चायोगदान)

I came to know two other workarounds from other Wikipedians:

The first method, provided by Ladsgroup is to use this site to convert the %-URL-encoded link to a human-readable link: https://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/dencoder/

The second, is that you can usually get an unencoded version of the URL by only copying a part of it from the address bar (e.g. skipping the 'https' part).

The Discoverer (चर्चायोगदान)

The extension ShortURL has been set up on the Konkani Wikipedia. In addition, I have set up a gadget which shows the short URL as a tool tip that appear when one hovers over the gray share icon to the right of the page title. This gadget is active by default and it can be disabled in 'Preferences -> Gadgets -> Appearance -> Dhaktem URL'. If this gadget is disabled, then the short URL will be displayed as below the page title.

Fredericknoronha (चर्चायोगदान)

Thanks so much for that. Much appreciatedǃ

"Short URLs, request for Wikipedia tool" हाका जबाब दी
Fredericknoronha (चर्चायोगदान)

This is an appeal to all those active on the Konkani Wikipedia to kindly help promote content here. Let's try and (i) promote translations (ii) get in some new participants and volunteers (iii) communicate and network both through the 'village pump' (a.k.a. tinto) and also through the WhatsApp group of the informal Goa Wikipedia Group. If you'd like to join the WhatsApp group, please contact me via SMS or WhatsApp on 9822122436. @The Discoverer@Konknni mogi 24 @Darshan kandolkar @Goan VR@Isidore Dantas1

Fredericknoronha (चर्चायोगदान)
Fredericknoronha (चर्चायोगदान)
Fredericknoronha (चर्चायोगदान)
"Full na pakli (Give a flower, if not, at least a petal)" हाका जबाब दी
Fredericknoronha (चर्चायोगदान)

Dear allː

I would like to propose that we (volunteers on the Goa Wikipedia Group) propose and 'adopt' pages or topics we would like to work on. Here are some suggestions already received, so please join the teams working or leading the same initiativesː

Goan (specially Konkani writers)ː Translations by @Isidore Dantas1. Photographs and networking by @Fredericknoronha.

Goan fish varieties used in local food preparationsː Werner Egipsy.

Tivim, Saligao and some other villagesː @TivimKar

Curchorem and nearby areasː @Samaysshetti

Photos and content for the List of State Protected Monuments in Goaː @Banduji

John Aguiar, under Konkani poetsː @Fredericknoronha

Generic photos related to Goa and related topicsː Coordination and networking @Fredericknoronha

The Goenchi Mati Movement and other environmental issuesː @Goan VR

General photo uploads and some contributionsː Rizthefiz

Surla Village (Bicholim)ː Rashmita, @Fredericknoronha

Shirgao, Goaː Pranita, @Fredericknoronha

List to be completed.

A number of veteran contributors have also been active on the Konkani Wikipedia. We need to connect with them, learn and help in their projects, and also see how the different Goa-related Wikipedias can jointly grow by translating, sharing content, etc. Among these are @The Discoverer (excellent tech and Wikipedia knowledge), @Konknni mogi 24 (admin of the Konkani Wikipedia), @Darshan kandolkar (long time Wikipedian with many, many edits). Sorry for not adequately knowing the user names of others. Please share with us what you are working on and where others could contribute/help.

Fredericknoronha (चर्चायोगदान)

Atisha also plans to work on Santa Cruz (Kalapur) and Priol villages.

Fredericknoronha (चर्चायोगदान)
"Topics volunteers want to focus on" हाका जबाब दी
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04:11, 16 ऑक्टोबर 2018 (IST)

"Tech News: 2018-42" हाका जबाब दी
Fredericknoronha (चर्चायोगदान)

Some of us on the recently activated "Goa Wikipedia Group" (an informal network via WhatsApp) are hosting a Goa Mini Edit-a-Thon on Saturday, October 13, 2018 from 1 pm to 5 pm at the Krishnadas Shama Central Library cybersection (first floor) at Pato, Panjim, Goa. Everyone interested is cordially invited.

The intention is to (i) promote more Goa-related content on the Wikipedias (all languages and scripts) (ii) promote Konkani and translations specially on the Konkani Wikipedia (iii) build closer networking and eventually a wider community of Wikipedia contributors, editors and supporters in Goa.

Isidore Dantas, lexicographer and translator from Pune, is visiting Goa and we expect to have him with us for part of the evening.

You are welcome to drop in at any stage, though obviously the more time you could give it, the better.

There will be no formal talks or discussions, but just hands-on contribution to the creation of new Wikipedia pages, adding content where needed to existing pages, and translating pages from say English (or any other language) to Konkani where suitable.

What you could do to contribute (whether you can attend or not)ː

(i) Create a Wikipedia login for the Konkani (httpː//gom.wikipedia.org), English (httpː//en.wikipedia.org) or any other language you are skilled in.

(ii) Bring photos on a pen drive which you are willing to upload and share with the Wikimedia Commons, specially Goa-related photos. (You will be agreeing to share it under a Creative Commons or such license.)

(iii) Plan the pages which you would like to work on -- create from scratch, add to, translate.

(iv) If you have only tech skills but no language skills (in any language you wish to contribute to), then please try to link up with someone who has the talent to complement and supplement your own.

(v) Even if you can't make it for the event, you could do all of the above. We will try -- bandwidth permitting -- to have some form of live video reporting from there.

(vi) Bandwidth costs a reasonable Rs 20 per hour; if you can sponsor the work of any other editor, please consider. Also, feel free to bring along any healthy snacks to be shared at a designated space and keep spirits high.

We are determined to get this going, even if we have two or three persons meeting up.

Please volunteer to act as the 'team leader' to create (or build up) a page on a village or urban area you are associated with. Bring along some photos of the place, we can work it out.

Pass the word around to anyone who might be interestedǃ Everyone can together do more.

To join the WhatsApp group to discuss Goa Wikipedia content issues, contact me on my phone number below.

Thank you very much. If you can make it, please mention in a note below.



PSː Also likely to attendː Fr Luis, Darshan, Isidore Dantas, Animesh Nerurkar.

Fredericknoronha (चर्चायोगदान)

Thank you everyone for coming and making it a memorable event and day!

"Goa Mini Edit-a-Thon Oct 2018" हाका जबाब दी
The Discoverer (चर्चायोगदान)

I have created this guide on how to create a good article for the Konkani Wikipedia. Please go through it and consult it whenever you create a new article. You can also use the points mentioned to improve an existing article. You are also welcome to improve this guide itself.

Wikipedia:New article quick guide

Fredericknoronha (चर्चायोगदान)

Nice one. Kindly try and making it for coming Saturday's meet.

Fredericknoronha (चर्चायोगदान)

On the issue of notability, maybe the Konkani community should work out its own standards. I find the global standards too stringent -- specially since much of what is available in Konkani itself is either not digitised, or not searchable. Or both.

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05:08, 9 ऑक्टोबर 2018 (IST)

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Fredericknoronha (चर्चायोगदान)

Please join us... trying to build some traction there. Currently has 178 members. SMS or WhatsApp me (9822122436) and I can add you. It's purposeː "This group aims to promote Goa-related content on the Wikipedia. In any or all languages, specially Konkani httpː//gom.wikipedia.org which really needs it. Please focus only on Goa-linked Wikipedia posts here. Specially welcome (1) suggestions for Goa-related Wikipedia pages (2) suggestions for translations (3) plans for meetups, Wikiathons, etc.

"Goa Wikipedia Group (an informal group via WhatsApp)" हाका जबाब दी
"https://gom.wikipedia.org/wiki/विकिपीडिया:Tinto" चे कडल्यान परतून मेळयलें